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General Discussion. Please use the classifieds for selling/wanted.
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by LadyBerg » April 10th, 2010, 10:57 pm
Ok guys, I'm new to Bergs and this site but I gotta say...hang in there it's awesome! I have a 08 and as a newbie to off road but not bike or mechanics I have a ton of questions. Oftentimes don't start a new thread because I figure I can do a search for the info and not bug everyone about the same old questions seen before.  Fine, but boring, not as much fun as posting and the back and forth banter from everyone. I've been on Advrider.com for years as a dual sport rider and it's almost too big now. But I do like a good flea market and would love to see a rider tips area. Oh and about gearing...  I do have a question... 
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by husapye » April 11th, 2010, 7:38 pm
Hey all! Just to make a squeak from down here at the bottom of the planet. There are many extenuating circumstances that bring changes to the traffic volumes of any UHE, many have been mentioned, economic global downturn, with huge impact to the motorcycle industry, also to the individual, a lot of the effects of this (although the shock wave is purported to have left the beach) are still emerging. New product. I am sure there will be problems emerging with this model, the closed loop EFI is a first, and the subframe,look at the space shuttle, the most sophisticated electronic devise on the planet,say no more. There has been unprecedented interest in the new model .When I take the new blue and yellow to an event ride, or the 2008 berg, for that matter, into the existing sea of sushi inspired, yellow, red , green, and dark blue machines, everyone wants the Jens Elmwall explanation of the motor, erogos and sub- frame .But hey, that’s part of the point of difference that berg riders recognize. Riders of every dimension want to offer there 10 cents worth on the perceived value of the bike, either to compare and justify their current ride, or out of genuine enthusiasm for the brave new technological step. Many know nothing of Husaberg, or the history of the bike .Of those that do have a concept of the history, it is so wrong and distorted by rumour. All the people I encounter with a genuine interest in Husaberg I direct them all to this site .It is a ‘touchstone’ that caters to all levels of interest. It also saves hours of explanation and ride time. Also the fact that Husaberg has left the mx boys out of the loop with the new enduro orientated machines has created some bitterness, here’s the evidence: http://www.motocrossactionmag.com/ME2/d ... 41D4B63B72I am sure that will be rectified with time. You don’t invent a five legged horse and put it straight to race, you strop it around the paddock first, figure out how it going to go to the toilet, and whether it will embarrass you in public on race day, first. The owner’s document is monumental and answers so many questions, from what I have heard, many punters jump on and off without posting or joining. Possibly a bit intimidated the level of expertise and afraid to offer an opinion. The level of expertise on this site, is, I think, unprecedented. You get a fast technical response, that is the right one first time, or leads quickly to a solution (unlike so many other DB forums). From the newbys I have spoken to there seems more reluctance to post an unqualified opinion or just share new experience. Maybe this is a, by design, or a site culture filter. With a foot in both worlds, pre 2009 and post, I jump to posts from both ends. I like looking at historical mechanical problems, who knows when they will become mine. With setting up and riding the new bike I am hungry for expert rider/rider experiences and set up, on the new machines in all areas. You can read/watch definitive tests all over the web with the level of expertise on this site I though there would be more comparative studies. If you haven’t read Dales 570 set up experience in Race and Ride your missing one of the best pieces of moto journalism on all fronts in the last year. Mate, thanks for the hot start tip, with flicking the starter fist to initiate a pump revolution, before hitting the starter, works on my bike almost every time. In my experience, Taffy is responsible for the best jetted bergs on the planet. Thanks for the jetting kit worth its weight in gold. Thanks to those that have dedicated hours to the site, to me it’s at minimum a good read, at best invaluable. PS…….. FS riders posting on youtube keep those rides and wheelies coming awesome!
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by Taffy » April 12th, 2010, 2:32 am
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I make it a rule not to read about the technical bull of the LDC bikes here at UHE. like a dog chasing it's tail you never seem to get a definitive view that you can trust but I think I just caught up with 2 years of R & D by reading that one test. what a brilliant test!!!!
I've seen the FX being raced over here-15 days ago and I could see that it was too soft and saggy but that then stopped me from seeing it's lack of power probably. the rider would have none of it. probably because he didn't take the extra 20KG into account when buying his shock and fork springs. oh well!
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by Davo » April 12th, 2010, 3:59 am
I give up, what is LDC ?
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by bushmechanic » April 12th, 2010, 4:32 am
Layed Down Cylinder ? from reading that review it sounds like a Load Dog Crap with PDS shock (Pile Dog Sh!t) 
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by Davo » April 12th, 2010, 4:43 am
Thanks Bushie. See you are Knowledgeable!
I reckon the site is healthy by the way, but I guess I wouldn't know as I am just a newbie with a LDC.
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by cypher » April 12th, 2010, 5:15 am
bushmechanic wrote:Layed Down Cylinder ? from reading that review it sounds like a Load Dog Crap with PDS shock (Pile Dog Sh!t) 
The main thing i cant figure about the new bike. why the hell did they made it so heavy. yeah the layout of the engine does make it feel heavier when your picking it off the floor but compensates by making it feel alot lighter when riding but thats just as well because all up it is a bit heavier than the competition. other than that you gotta take into account that the mxa test is comparing the bike to the current crop of 450 mx'ers where any enduro/xc bike is going to get stuffed. interesting read though.
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by Parsko » April 12th, 2010, 8:19 am
Hi guys! I've been buried in a year-long home rehabiliation that is almost complete... I think the site it healthy. Schwim has done a great job modernizing the site. If I recall, he was awesome at dealing with the old code issues of the previous generation web code, that is why/how the old site lived so long. I think it'll be a matter of time before we start seeing some of the older features come back as he starts to work his way through the mud. We could do without a video section. At this point in the evolution of the web, it is not necessary. But, a button at the top of the reply post section that would seemlessly allow us to embed a youtube video would be nice (can we do that now???). Can/did someone create a UHE specific site on youtube like http://www.youtube.com/UHE or similar? Anyway. I think most people are just fighting to feed themselves, and don't have the spare mental energy to mess around on the UHE these days. Certainly applies to me. They will be back, I'm sure, as time goes on. Frankly, I'm very happy that we still have a place to visit, even if it isn't what we remember. The same old guys can still find the same old guys, if they need to. And, YES, I miss Dale. I personally don't care about any of the in-fighting that used to happen, or even remember much what any of it was about. But, I wish he would chime in too more than he does. And, yes, I'm going to agree with another point suggested. Separate the models into generation. It's about time it happened. Being a 1st gen guy, I'd love to find all the appropriate 1st gen stuff. Plus, maybe that would make it easier for Json to get that archive back to us (I think it still exists, right Schwim???, please say yes). Even if we dumped all gen 1 stuff into a single gen 1 heading, I'd be cool. My point, I'm still here, reading regularly. Not posting enough, but still here and reading. Viva la UHE!!!! -Parsko
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by Davo » July 29th, 2010, 7:05 am
Did UHE loose a bit of healthiness when all the new LDC people turned up? Is there 3 sort of factions? Old skool pre 09 Berg dirt riders. Core original UHE close knit group. Supermotard boyzs pre 09. LDC riders with not much Husaberg knowledge. (growing band of noise makers and Drive Bye's)
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by steve » July 30th, 2010, 9:00 pm
Davo wrote:Did UHE loose a bit of healthiness when all the new LDC people turned up? Is there 3 sort of factions? Old skool pre 09 Berg dirt riders. Core original UHE close knit group. Supermotard boyzs pre 09. LDC riders with not much Husaberg knowledge. (growing band of noise makers and Drive Bye's)
I recall that it was discussed here previously that an apprenticeship on a Gen 1 or Gen 2 should be compulsory to be allowed to acquire a Gen 3. Steve
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by arkley123 » July 31st, 2010, 3:11 am
At about the time of the change over, my 02 blew a stator for a second time & given that I was also coming round to the idea that it was too big a bike for me to handle at this stage, I laid it up in the garage & bought a husky wr250 smoker.
This bike is a pleasure for me to ride but I dont love it. I don't feel part of a club & if I have a problem, there are so many forums (but none specific - thumper talk seems best) that I'm not confident of the replys.
During this period; (as others mentioned above) I've watched but not joined in. No one likes change & I didn't like the new site either but now I'm used to it its fine. Everything has to change / evolve or it stagnates & dies & this is no exception & I for one think the guys who run it are doing a great job.
I have noticed low postings but doesn't that always happen summer as we're all out on our bikes. I have noticed lots of "new" & LDC posts and like many other forums, the posts are sometimes non bike related gibberish (please keep to facebook). But I supposed that's to be expected when there's nothing wrong with their bikes. Better to keep members on the site then alienate them.
PS Keep "the lighter side" going - not many posts here recently!!
However, I can only pay £1,500.00 ($2,000.00) for a bike so I'm old school - but note....in 3 years time I'll be buying 09 ldc's fo that price & they'll be knackered & I'll need schwin / Dale / Taffy and you all to tell me how to fix up a banger.
Recently with the help of a site member who responded to a post of mine /(sold me some wheels tyres - fenders - spaces - chain everything) I've SM'd my FE02 & Taffy / sparks supplied the extras. This was all done for about 1/2 what it would have cost in time & money if I'd done it alone the e-bay route plus I could pm or call & say..."where does that go??".
I'm so pleased with the new lease of life on my FE (was thinking of parting it at one point) that I'm going to post back the bits I did'nt use - I could put them on e-bay & make a few quid but I reckon I was helped & so I'll help back. Thats what clubs are all about.
A while back Daleo missunderstood one of my posts when I referred to my "subscription" to the UHE. Every year on the anniversory of my joining I pledge about $20.00. I reckon thats my subscription to a club that saves me £'sss in advice & parts.
Keep up the good works.
Get the classified up & running again.
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Hooray..I can start it without going purple.
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by petem » July 31st, 2010, 5:41 am
arkley123 wrote:...bought a husky wr250 smoker.
This bike is a pleasure for me to ride but I dont love it. I don't feel part of a club & if I have a problem, there are so many forums (but none specific - thumper talk seems best) that I'm not confident of the replys.
Didn't you find Cafe Husky? I doubt there's any question you could ask about a Husky of any vintage where you wouldn't get a reliable answer there and they welcome anyone with an interest in Huskys. davo wrote:Did UHE loose a bit of healthiness when all the new LDC people turned up? ... LDC riders with not much Husaberg knowledge. (growing band of noise makers and Drive Bye's)
steve wrote:I recall that it was discussed here previously that an apprenticeship on a Gen 1 or Gen 2 should be compulsory to be allowed to acquire a Gen 3. 
arkley123 wrote:I have noticed lots of "new" & LDC posts and like many other forums, the posts are sometimes non bike related gibberish (please keep to facebook). But I supposed that's to be expected when there's nothing wrong with their bikes.
Are these the views of the majority of members on this forum? If so, what's the solution - would you be happy with the suggestion Parsko mentioned to "Separate the models into generations" so that people could easily ignore the generations they're not interested in, or would you rather that anyone who's a newcomer to Husabergs and hasn't owned anything prior to LDC models should just leave the forum altogether because they have nothing useful or interesting to contribute? arkley123 wrote:Better to keep members on the site then alienate them.
That's true if you want to keep the site active in the long term and make sure it doesn't die, but then again if some of the activity is about things which the majority of members just find irrelevant and irritating...
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by Taffy » July 31st, 2010, 7:29 am
MY view is still right. still hasn't changed. click on a coloured dot when naming your new thread:
yellow = > 2001 orange = 2001-2003 green = 2004-2008 turquoise can be the current generation. and so on and so forth.
no need for catagories - just an indicator. this is the only time you should wish you're a septic tank and then you'd get your ideas gratified and ratified etc
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by Has Been » July 31st, 2010, 1:23 pm
Newby here. Laptop-6months. BMW R1100S -6 months. Husaberg- 6 days. Learning about computer and R1100S details- 4 months. Then found ADV riders. Wanted DS bike. Decided on Berg. Joined here and Thumper Talk. Enough already. This is the first sight that I totally agree with, both in content and emotion. Just the fact that the question was asked and answered is the statement that you wanted. I, of course, will go on to pick the experts brains to make my Berg the envy of all my GS friends. I hope!!!
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by schwim » July 31st, 2010, 3:46 pm
Taffy wrote: you'd get your ideas gratified and ratified etc
To be completely honest taff, this isn't true. I'd fail to implement your suggestions, just like everyone elses, regardless of your status as a non-seppo. It has less to do with your origination than my lack of time to implement the suggestions.
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